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That Time I Quit the Comics Business

By Jim Shooter

When I started writing comics, it was to make money for my family. I never intended to become a comic book writer, or any kind of writer, for that matter. I was going to be a scientist. I was going to help beat those damn Commies to the moon, or cure cancer, or something.  

I took five years worth of math in four years of high school—algebra 1, geometry, algebra 2, trigonometry/analytical geometry and calculus/probability/statistics. I also took six years worth of science—biology 1 and 2, chemistry 1 and 2, and physics 1 and 2. I voluntarily went to summer school one year to take Physics 1. I won the tri-state science fair in ninth grade. I was in the science club. I took four years of a special, after-school extra class (for credit, mind you) called “Biology Research,” which paired science-psycho students like me with University of Pittsburgh researchers to serve as their lab assistants and create/execute a research project of their own. Mine was an iteration of the Hill reaction, photosynthesis in a vat, basically. Does that tell you I wanted to be in the science biz?

P.S., what I learned from my Pitt PhD adviser while being his lab assistant was how to make LSD. I forget, now, and no, I never tried it.  

During my freshman year in high school—before I had ever taken even chemistry 1—I participated in a tri-state chemistry contest, the prize being a scholarship, sponsored by the American Chemical Society and various local industry giants like Koppers. I finished in the top ten, against nothing but senior chem 2 students! I was the only freshman there!  I was serious. I had been studying chemistry and science in general on my own for years. In fifth grade I wrote a term paper for my accelerated English program on hydrocarbon chemistry. I was lucky to have a pre-med student as a next-door neighbor. In exchange for my playing chess with him, he’d explain chemistry things that daunted me in my reading—mostly things that were over my head math-wise at the time.  

However, writing comics, which I started just before ninth grade, cut into my study time a bunch. I never had to open a book to ace chemistry 1 and 2. No surprise that I did less well in the chem contest during my sophomore and junior years, and didn’t even try in my senior year.  

Fortunately, I got a scholarship anyway. I aced the National Merit Scholarship Qualifying Test. That’s a story, too. I had been up for over 48 hours, skipping school, trying to make a deadline for Mort. I finished the job in the wee hours of the morning of the day of the NMSQT, a Saturday, and mailed the pages air mail special delivery at the main post office in downtown Pittsburgh, which was open 24-7. Air mail special delivery usually got there the next day, for 55 cents, as I recall—an outrage. There was no FedEx back then. Anyway, by the time I got back from the post office, it was around five AM. Had to be at the school at seven to take the test. I was dying to take a nap—but I knew that if my head hit that pillow, I’d never make it to the test. And, hey, I payed seven dollars to take that test, goddammit! So I stayed up, drank a vat of coffee, walked the mile and a half or so to Bethel Park Senior High School and took the test. I was wired. I was electric. I was intuiting the answers to calculus problems before I’d ever taken calculus. I finished before anyone else and went home and slept like the dead. When the results came in, I had one of the best scores in the state.  Sheer, total magic. I’m not that smart.

Anyway, I got scholarship offers, in addition to the NMSQT scholarship, like crazy. Even one from MIT. NYU offered me a chance to be what they called a “University Scholar,” one of only two that year. They would have paid for everything, housing, books, tuition, everything. I could have designed my own curriculum. They would have even given me a “cultural stipend,” money to use to go see Broadway plays and such. Cool.

However….

I had given every dime I’d ever made to my mother. She/we had never paid my taxes. I was in debt to the Feds. A lot.

No scholarship covers that.  

So, I would have had to work while going to college to pay my back taxes.  I would have had to work anyway, to pay living expenses the scholarship didn’t cover, but, without the tax situation, a flipping burgers job would have sufficed. The tax thing meant I had to have a real job.

Having worked my way through high school, I don’t know…I just wasn’t ready to grind out the writing through another four years. Didn’t think I could make it.  

I would stare at blank paper for days…until the fear of not delivering eclipsed the fear of delivering.

Jim

Also. When I started to work for Mort, writing, drawing and creating came easily to me. And it was a joy. And I thought I was accomplishing something for my family. As time went on, after being screamed at countless times that I was an idiot by the Big Important Man in New York, it became harder and harder. I felt like no matter what I put on the paper, it would be wrong, and that Mort would yell at me. I dreaded our Thursday night calls. In fact, it got to the point that when I heard a phone ring anywhere, anytime, even in school, I’d freeze up, white knuckled, fearing that it was Mort, calling to yell at me. It got to the point that I was afraid to make a mark on the paper, because I knew that whatever I put there would be wrong and Mort would scream at me. I would stare at blank paper for days…until the fear of not delivering eclipsed the fear of delivering. Then, I was greased lightning. Our family financial situation never seemed to get better. It got worse. I remember my mother, desperate for a check, coming up to my room, looking at the paper on my lapboard, seeing that it was blank, and crying as she went back downstairs.

So, anyway, writing for Mort through college didn’t seem like an option. I asked Mort if I could maybe have some less taxing office job instead—part-time assistant editor, or whatever. He said no, he needed me as a writer. He needed me?! The retard?!

So—and here’s where I admit that I am the retard Mort claimed I was—I flew to New York—hey, student standby round trip was only $27.50 in those days—then, I called Stan Lee and asked for an interview. Idiot. What if he was out of town, or sick that day? Fool. I called from a pay phone on Madison Avenue. Miraculously, the receptionist put me through. Unheard of. No one got to speak with Stan. Did she sense the desperation in my voice? Whatever. Lucky fool. I told Stan I wrote for DC and wanted to write for Marvel. He said, and I quote, “We don’t like the writing at DC.” I said, and I quote, “I don’t either. The people there call me their ‘Marvel writer,’ and they mean it as an insult.” Stan thought for a few seconds and said, “I’ll give you fifteen minutes.”

I showed up at Marvel’s offices at one PM, as prescribed. I met with Stan.  We started talking comics theory. We agreed on everything. He liked me!  Hey, Mikey! After three hours of conversation, during which, at one point, Stan jumped up on his thankfully-sturdy coffee table waving a yardstick as if it were a sword (he’ll deny that, but it happened) Stan hired me as an editor.  That was the good news. The bad news was that there was no way I could do what he wanted and go to NYU at the same time.

I picked Marvel.

P.S., we’d already beaten the Commies to the moon anyway….

I think I met with Stan on a Wednesday or Thursday. I showed up for work as agreed at Marvel on the following Monday with my suitcase and no idea where I was going to sleep that night. I worked all day, mostly editing a Millie the Model script—and caught a major mistake. Stan, who wrote the book, was very impressed and grateful. Hey, I was a made man on day one.  

Somehow, Mort had found out that I had taken a job at Marvel. He called me at my desk that first day and proceeded to scream at me for being an ingrate, “after all I’ve done for you,” retard, imbecile, idiot, blah, blah, blah. Ho-hum.  

Sometime around 6:30 PM, I started looking for a place to sleep. I think I ended up in the Y.

I spent three weeks working at Marvel. That would have been at the end of 1969 or maybe early 1970. I loved it. I co-plotted several stories, I edited lots of comics, I learned paste-up, sort of, from the great Ancient One, Morrie Kuramoto, I proofread, I did everything. Marvel had a very small staff.  

However, I was eighteen, fresh from Pittsburgh, with only a few dollars in my pocket, desperately in debt to the Feds, without any friends or help. Sure couldn’t count on the family for support. I went over two weeks without eating. No money for food. And I was skinny already. My draft card, which I still have, says I was six-foot-six and 170 pounds at age 18, some months previous. Picture that. I don’t know what I got down to, but I was f**king skeletal. Couldn’t find a place to stay. Couldn’t survive.  

Finally, I gave up. I went home to Pittsburgh, where at least, I could sleep in a warm place.

A couple of asides:

In 1966, I had a chance to appear on What’s My Line? For those of you not wicked old, like me, that was a TV game show on which a panel of notable, smart people tried to guess the contestant’s occupation. Who’d guess that a 14-year-old was a writer of Superman and other DC comics? I thought I was a lock to win the maximum prize of $50.

My editor and boss, Mort Weisinger, nixed the appearance. He said that Superman and the other characters were the stars and that he didn’t want creators, like me, getting “undue attention.” Mort never ran creator credits.

Around that same time, Mort asked me to “create” a new character called Captain Action. I was pleased and honored. After I found out how little latitude I had, I was less pleased. So much was dictated to me! CA had to have Shazam-style mythological powers, an Action Cave, a sidekick, a car, a pet panther, for Pete’s sake, and more. I did the best I could….   

But when I saw the art for the two issues I wrote—the first issue by all-time-great Wally Wood and second issue by all-time-great Gil Kane inked by Wood—I was back to being pleased. Ecstatic, in fact. The art was brilliant. And, extra groovy, those two issues had my first splash page credits! Woody lettered in his own credit, as he always did, and also lettered in mine (and Gils’s)! (Note: Woody hated writers, but since I provided layouts with my script, in his mind, that made me an artist! Artists deserved credit!)  

Mort didn’t have our names removed—probably because Woody was who he was.  You just didn’t mess with Woody.

After I left comics I worked at a paint and plastics plant as a quality control tech (less glamorous than it sounds), at a lumberyard, at a restaurant washing dishes, as a security guard, in a payroll office, in a department store, as a house painter, as a car reconditioner and as a janitor— but, during those days, I also got work doing comics-style advertising concept, writing and illustration. I did work for big clients like U.S. Steel and Levi’s—and made incredible money, when there was work. The trouble was that such work wasn’t steady, hence the parade of low-end jobs to bridge the gaps. I also was manager of a Kentucky Fried Chicken store for a while. In one week of advertising work I made as much money as a year’s worth of any of those other jobs. But, I hated advertising. Once I was asked to come up with a pitch for U.S. Steel Building Products Super-C Steel Joists.  First, I had to find out what a joist was. I thought, what am I doing? Selling things that I don’t even know what they are, much less, whether they’re any good or not. Bleh. 

Morrie Kuramoto

Untold Tales

SEVEN – Tomorrow

I wrote what’s below and I can’t take any more time today….

First, Untold Tales

A few stories I promised to tell:

An Ad-venture and an “Expensive” Lesson

I lived in Pittsburgh in the early 1970’s, and sometimes I worked freelance for Pittsburgh-based Lando-Bishopric Advertising, usually on the U.S. Steel account. At various times, I served as a concept creator, copywriter, designer and illustrator. Yes, illustrator. I’m not as practiced, fast and facile as most good comic book artists, but give me lots of reference and all week to make one illo and I do okay.

Sex and Drugs

Let’s do the drugs first. Whoo-hoo!

Drugs

 

I think I wrote the first drug use story in the Comics Code era. It appeared in this issue of Action Comics:

It was the second feature, a Legion of Super-Heroes story entitled “Forbidden Fruit.” Comic Book Database, www.comicbookdb.com, while often useful, gives credit for writing this story jointly to Mort Weisinger and me. Why do they do that? Mort never co-wrote anything with me, or even made a significant edit on any of my scripts. Sigh. No, I wrote it, just me.
The story was published in April of 1969.

Fatal Five design drawings, 1966



 

A Letter From Curt Swan

I came across this yesterday. It’s the first letter I ever received from Curt Swan, hand written on a 14×16″ piece of vellum. What a wonderful letter, what a brilliant artist, what a great man.P.S. Check out how neat the lettering is.  : )

(Click on the letter for a more satisfyingly large image)

It’s a Bird, It’s a Plane, It’s Superman

When I was fourteen, I went on my first business trip. It was in June, 1966, soon after school ended for the year, and almost a year after I’d written the first Legion story DC bought. Fresh out of ninth grade, I was off from home in Pittsburgh to New York City to spend a week in DC’s offices learning more about comics production—things like coloring and inking that are hard to explain over the phone. At DC’s insistence, my mother had to accompany me.Even with the income I was making from DC added to the mix, my family wasn’t exactly prosperous. When you start deep in the hole, it takes a long time to dig out. My mother was worried that she didn’t have anything appropriate to wear. And there was no money to go clothes shopping. A friend of hers from church who was a seamstress offered to make her a few dresses, as a gift.

But, as for the trip itself, DC paid all expenses—the airfare, meals, the hotel. They put us up in the Summit Hotel, a top shelf place in those days. It also happened to be located at Lexington and 51st, right across the street from 575 Lexington Avenue, where DC had its offices. For about a week, I reported to the office every day, met people and learned things.

Here I Go Again

Four years after leaving my career in comics in (I thought) ruins I was making my living writing ad copy freelance and working part-time in a department store. I got a call from Duffy Vohland, an editor at Marvel. He’d gotten my number from a fan, Harry Broertjes, who’d found it somehow. Duffy invited me to come up to New York and talk to the editors at Marvel about getting back into comics, and told me that National, too, would probably be interested again. Mort had left and no one else there held a grudge. Marvel had never had a grudge.

The next day I flew to New York and presented myself at Marvel. Marvel had moved to larger quarters, but they looked even more cluttered and used than the previous ones. There was a huge paper maché figure of Thor, donated by some fans, suspended on wires from the ceiling in the production area. There were piles of stuff everywhere–old comics, envelopes, books, trash. Two people were sword fighting with yardsticks in the hall. There seemed to be a lot more people, most of them young, strange-looking and dressed for playing frisbee in the park or painting a house, maybe. My tour guide, Duffy, pointed out a few corners where there were sleeping bags where a few otherwise homeless staffers spent their nights. Now, why hadn’t I thought of that four years ago?

My Short-Lived Inking Career

I worked at Marvel for a short time back in late 1969. Stan hired me as a “staff writer,” but I never actually got to write anything. There weren’t very many staff people, there was a lot of work and most of it needed to be done in a hurry — all hands on deck! So, I ended up helping out with whatever the crisis of the moment was, doing a little of everything — editing, proofreading, paste-ups, lettering corrections and sometimes even minor art corrections.  Sometimes, Stan would gather everyone, and I mean everyone in his office — the only space where, as few as we were, we’d all fit — and we’d brainstorm plots for whichever books were next in the queue. He’d ask “Where did we leave Iron Man.” Someone would remember. People would voice ideas. Stan, it must be said, did most of the heavy lifting. With all of the above going on, things got frantic sometimes, but I loved it.

Anyway….

I wanted to make more money. No, make that I needed to make more money. New York was and is a far more expensive place to live than hometown Pittsburgh. I asked about freelance work. There wasn’t any freelance writing available. At DC, I’d been taught to color, but coloring at Marvel paid very little — my rate would have been under a dollar a page. I knew I couldn’t color fast enough to make the money I needed. Lettering? No. Making a small correction is one thing, but lettering a whole book…? I don’t know. I think I could have done it, but it would have taken a lot of practice time even to get ready to try out. Penciling? I’d always done layouts for the stories I wrote for DC, and in fact, in his very first letter to me, my DC editor, Mort Weisinger suggested that I might want to someday “draw features for DC.” But there’s a long way between sketchy layouts and finished pencils. The only finished drawings I’d done up until that time were in art school in a very non-comics style. Again, it would take lots of practice, at minimum, to even make a credible try. 

That left inking.

Washed up at Eighteen

In 1969 on my first day of work at Marvel Comics they found me a small table and chair in a corner. Literally. Marvel in those days had only two real offices, Stan’s and Sol Brodsky’s. Sol was the production manager, which meant he handled anything Stan didn’t want to, which meant anything technical, administrative or financial. Sol’s office looked like a combination production office/storeroom. Beside Stan’s and Sol’s office office there was a reception area and two small partitioned areas. Mimi Gold was the receptionist. Near the reception room, a fellow named Allyn Brodsky (no relation to Sol) read and answered fan mail. One partitioned area was occupied by John Romita, Marie Severin and Tony Mortellaro, all slaving away at art boards. The other area had Morrie Kuramoto doing virtually all the production work by himself, John Verpoorten coloring and somewhere in the back, Stu Schwartzberg running the stat machine. And, oh yes, in a dim corner, me.

The whole place had a cluttered, used look and feel–as opposed to DC’s offices, which were opulent and huge by comparison, populated by an army of dignified people tiptoeing around, speaking in solemn tones, as though they were discussing insurance, or some other “real” business. And at DC they wouldn’t let you in without a jacket and tie. In fact, the first time I went to New York to discuss business in 1966, Mort met me at my hotel to make certain I was properly dressed before allowing me to go up to the offices. He wanted to make sure I wouldn’t embarrass him by showing up in a tee-shirt or something. At Marvel, nobody cared what you wore.

A Leap of Fate

Some time around the summer of 1969, I was taken off of Adventure Comics, my one regular title, because the Legion of Super Heroes, my regular feature, was reduced to a second feature in Action Comics. That move made no sense to me. While other National titles had fallen precipitously, Adventure had remained fairly constant during my tenure, according to the statements of ownership printed in one of my first issues and in my last (the way I figured it, the ol’ “Marvel writer” had come through) — but Mort explained that falling sales on Superboy had prompted the shuffling. Supergirl would be put into Adventure, and presumably would hold the half million readers buying the title, while as a back-up, the Legion (which starred Superboy) would no longer “dilute” the sales of Superboy. And, it might shore up declining sales of Action. Meanwhile, I would be given Jimmy Olsen as a regular assignment along with the Legion back-up to fill my schedule.

Since Jimmy Olsen was not one of my favorite characters, I was somewhat disappointed by all of this. I was also very tired of working for Mort. He was a great man who taught me a great deal, but by his own admission he was not an easy person to work for.

Finally, at age eighteen, thanks in large measure to Mort’s teaching, and in spite of his frequent, brutal, often cruel criticism, I felt fairly confident in my ability — confident enough to dare approach Marvel.

I called Stan Lee. Miraculously, I got him on the phone, even though he’d never heard of me. Even more miraculously, I got him to agree to see me. He told me he’d give me ten minutes.

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